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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by MacGuru</title>
		<link>http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2009/10/09/bittorrent-and-peer-to-peer-file-sharing-are-not-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a proud member of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maps.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MAPS&lt;/a&gt; I always talk THC, it&#039;s much more useful than Hemp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a proud member of <a href="http://www.maps.org/" rel="nofollow">MAPS</a> I always talk THC, it&#8217;s much more useful than Hemp.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by JustAComputerGuy</title>
		<link>http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2009/10/09/bittorrent-and-peer-to-peer-file-sharing-are-not-illegal/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>JustAComputerGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree  that we need to protect technical innovation and the freedom to tinker ... maybe the only thing I really disagree with is the phrase &quot;protected right to protocol freedoms.&quot; :-)

OMG -- I&#039;ve turned Libertarian!?

And didn&#039;t we loose that battle with Code Red, NAT, firewalls and the growing habit to push everything over port 80? I remember when the cable modem activity light would actually stop if your computer wasn&#039;t causing network traffic.

OMG -- I&#039;m an OLD Libertarian! (Made of STRAW!!)

Okay, um, so, to improve the argument -- point out where Big Media is actually attacking the protocols themselves. Point out why this is unhelpful. Never mention music. In other words, talk hemp, not THC.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree  that we need to protect technical innovation and the freedom to tinker &#8230; maybe the only thing I really disagree with is the phrase &#8220;protected right to protocol freedoms.&#8221; <img src='http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>OMG &#8212; I&#8217;ve turned Libertarian!?</p>
<p>And didn&#8217;t we loose that battle with Code Red, NAT, firewalls and the growing habit to push everything over port 80? I remember when the cable modem activity light would actually stop if your computer wasn&#8217;t causing network traffic.</p>
<p>OMG &#8212; I&#8217;m an OLD Libertarian! (Made of STRAW!!)</p>
<p>Okay, um, so, to improve the argument &#8212; point out where Big Media is actually attacking the protocols themselves. Point out why this is unhelpful. Never mention music. In other words, talk hemp, not THC.</p>
<p> <img src='http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by MacGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, one of the things I&#039;m taking issue with is the idea of prohibiting a protocol.  Of course corporations can police their users in different ways than universities or public institutions.  But users should have a protected right to protocol freedoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, one of the things I&#8217;m taking issue with is the idea of prohibiting a protocol.  Of course corporations can police their users in different ways than universities or public institutions.  But users should have a protected right to protocol freedoms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by JustAComputerGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAComputerGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From: http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2009/think-twice-before-you-dust-those-mix-tapes

&quot;The Copyright Act gives the author of a sound recording (say, a recording artist) exclusive rights to make reproductions, prepare derivative works, distribute copies to the public, and to perform the copyrighted work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission. 17 U.S.C. § 114. Making a mix tape may implicate several of these exclusive rights. Putting the mix tape on your website for download would be distribution of the work to the public. A visitor to your blog downloading the file would be another instance of copyright infringement.&quot;

But otherwise, yes, the BitTorrent protocol isn&#039;t illegal.

Still prohibited on most company networks. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: <a href="http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2009/think-twice-before-you-dust-those-mix-tapes" rel="nofollow">http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2009/think-twice-before-you-dust-those-mix-tapes</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Copyright Act gives the author of a sound recording (say, a recording artist) exclusive rights to make reproductions, prepare derivative works, distribute copies to the public, and to perform the copyrighted work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission. 17 U.S.C. § 114. Making a mix tape may implicate several of these exclusive rights. Putting the mix tape on your website for download would be distribution of the work to the public. A visitor to your blog downloading the file would be another instance of copyright infringement.&#8221;</p>
<p>But otherwise, yes, the BitTorrent protocol isn&#8217;t illegal.</p>
<p>Still prohibited on most company networks. <img src='http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by MacGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The volume of sharing doesn&#039;t make it less moral.  If it&#039;s OK to share a mixed tape, it&#039;s OK to use technology to share that tape with 1,000 people.  This openness is exactly how the network affords powerful means for resisting institutional power, creating new community and removing boundaries, borders, walls, etc.  The model of proprietary data is outdated and can&#039;t survive, they&#039;re grasping to save it and they won&#039;t be able to.

It can only be called &#039;a black market&#039; because the RIAA and other lobbying organizations have been successful at framing the exchange of data that way.  It&#039;s complete hypocrisy.  Those same companies and lobbying groups use material that is in the public domain every day and profit from it, while at the same time they fight to prevent data they have exclusive licenses on from going into the public domain.  It&#039;s analogous to the pharmaceutical companies who delay the creation of a generic drug even though it could save lives.  Profit motive prevents the media companies from claiming ANY higher ground in this debate.

There are already limits on bandwidth use and people who use the largest volume of traffic online already pay more for it.  Net neutrality would protect access to the internet, maintain the freedoms we have now online and prevent further corporate domination of the internet.  Any argument claiming net neutrality would restrict any personal access to the network is propaganda straight from the talking points of AT&amp;T.

(And freeways should be illegal, but not because stolen cars can be driven on them - because any travel at that distance should be done on a train.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The volume of sharing doesn&#8217;t make it less moral.  If it&#8217;s OK to share a mixed tape, it&#8217;s OK to use technology to share that tape with 1,000 people.  This openness is exactly how the network affords powerful means for resisting institutional power, creating new community and removing boundaries, borders, walls, etc.  The model of proprietary data is outdated and can&#8217;t survive, they&#8217;re grasping to save it and they won&#8217;t be able to.</p>
<p>It can only be called &#8216;a black market&#8217; because the RIAA and other lobbying organizations have been successful at framing the exchange of data that way.  It&#8217;s complete hypocrisy.  Those same companies and lobbying groups use material that is in the public domain every day and profit from it, while at the same time they fight to prevent data they have exclusive licenses on from going into the public domain.  It&#8217;s analogous to the pharmaceutical companies who delay the creation of a generic drug even though it could save lives.  Profit motive prevents the media companies from claiming ANY higher ground in this debate.</p>
<p>There are already limits on bandwidth use and people who use the largest volume of traffic online already pay more for it.  Net neutrality would protect access to the internet, maintain the freedoms we have now online and prevent further corporate domination of the internet.  Any argument claiming net neutrality would restrict any personal access to the network is propaganda straight from the talking points of AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>(And freeways should be illegal, but not because stolen cars can be driven on them &#8211; because any travel at that distance should be done on a train.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on BitTorrent and Peer-to-Peer File Sharing are not Illegal by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course bittorrent or other P2P networks / protocols should not be illegal. That would be like saying freeways should be illegal because stolen cars can be driven on them.

However, I think it&#039;s disingenuous to pretend like they&#039;re analogous to mix tapes or any other copying mechanism. P2P / torrent networks (starting with Napster &amp; the like) simply drive up the volume of sharing because the quality is digital (read: perfect copies) and the sharing is done virtually anonymously, and virtually for free. Just because the black market is easy to get to and use doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not a black market. 

Also, the notion that torrents are more &quot;popular&quot; than web browsing is based on sheer network volume - of course sharing movie files will result in greater bandwidth than comparably svelte web pages. In point of fact it provides a good reason why network neutrality is a bad idea, since the number of people using torrent networks for &quot;large volume&quot; transactions are ultimately smaller than those who want the convenience of a faster www.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course bittorrent or other P2P networks / protocols should not be illegal. That would be like saying freeways should be illegal because stolen cars can be driven on them.</p>
<p>However, I think it&#8217;s disingenuous to pretend like they&#8217;re analogous to mix tapes or any other copying mechanism. P2P / torrent networks (starting with Napster &amp; the like) simply drive up the volume of sharing because the quality is digital (read: perfect copies) and the sharing is done virtually anonymously, and virtually for free. Just because the black market is easy to get to and use doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not a black market. </p>
<p>Also, the notion that torrents are more &#8220;popular&#8221; than web browsing is based on sheer network volume &#8211; of course sharing movie files will result in greater bandwidth than comparably svelte web pages. In point of fact it provides a good reason why network neutrality is a bad idea, since the number of people using torrent networks for &#8220;large volume&#8221; transactions are ultimately smaller than those who want the convenience of a faster www.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Apple Magic Mouse, not so Magical? by MacGuru</title>
		<link>http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2009/10/20/magic-mouse-not-so-magical/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One could - but the labor involved in changing and recharging batteries for hundreds of computers all over a university?  That&#039;s a full time job on its own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could &#8211; but the labor involved in changing and recharging batteries for hundreds of computers all over a university?  That&#8217;s a full time job on its own!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Apple Magic Mouse, not so Magical? by Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. Why not just use NiMH rechargeable AAs? True, it&#039;ll still be work replacing and recharging batteries, but at least you&#039;re not throwing alkalines away.

The real issue I see is keeping the wireless devices from walking away in a lab environment. For that reason alone, I&#039;ll still spec machines with the wired keyboard and mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Why not just use NiMH rechargeable AAs? True, it&#8217;ll still be work replacing and recharging batteries, but at least you&#8217;re not throwing alkalines away.</p>
<p>The real issue I see is keeping the wireless devices from walking away in a lab environment. For that reason alone, I&#8217;ll still spec machines with the wired keyboard and mouse.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Users and Producers: How Much does Social Media Profit from Your Content? by Matthew K. Gold</title>
		<link>http://gcmac.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2009/10/27/users-and-producers-how-much-does-social-media-profit-from-your-content/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew K. Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a hugely important issue, Michael -- thanks so much for highlighting it.  My favorite critique comes from game scholar and designer Ian Bogost in his post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bogost.com/blog/bloomsday_on_twitter.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bloomsday on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;:

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In the world of Web 2.0, a public sheds the chains of a tightly-controled mass media market in which individuals are converted into the &quot;consumers&quot; needed to purchase mass produced goods and services. In its stead, that public gets a loosly-controlled micro media market, in which individuals are converted into the &quot;users&quot; needed to create databases for sale to Google or Yahoo! or News Corp for $35 a head. But now the market outsources manufacture to those very &quot;users.&quot; The workers may have had nothing to lose but their chains, but the users are lining up to link their own together. It&#039;s the new fashion; chains are the new black.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s the huge, dark underbelly of the Web 2.0 phenomenon.

Sidenote:  Why isn&#039;t Gregory posting (or reposting) that blog entry on the Commons?!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a hugely important issue, Michael &#8212; thanks so much for highlighting it.  My favorite critique comes from game scholar and designer Ian Bogost in his post <a href="http://www.bogost.com/blog/bloomsday_on_twitter.shtml" rel="nofollow">Bloomsday on Twitter</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the world of Web 2.0, a public sheds the chains of a tightly-controled mass media market in which individuals are converted into the &#8220;consumers&#8221; needed to purchase mass produced goods and services. In its stead, that public gets a loosly-controlled micro media market, in which individuals are converted into the &#8220;users&#8221; needed to create databases for sale to Google or Yahoo! or News Corp for $35 a head. But now the market outsources manufacture to those very &#8220;users.&#8221; The workers may have had nothing to lose but their chains, but the users are lining up to link their own together. It&#8217;s the new fashion; chains are the new black.
</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s the huge, dark underbelly of the Web 2.0 phenomenon.</p>
<p>Sidenote:  Why isn&#8217;t Gregory posting (or reposting) that blog entry on the Commons?!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mac OS X and Active Directory by Don Montalvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Montalvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I wish I found this before I prepared a similar PDF outlining the options. Yours is much easier to understand for a non-Mac tech. Which option did you go for in your EDU environment? I would hazard a guess you want with AD schema extension?

Don Montalvo
Dallas, TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I wish I found this before I prepared a similar PDF outlining the options. Yours is much easier to understand for a non-Mac tech. Which option did you go for in your EDU environment? I would hazard a guess you want with AD schema extension?</p>
<p>Don Montalvo<br />
Dallas, TX</p>
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